Thursday, February 09, 2006

Response to "Crazy Settler"

11 Shevat 5766

Yeah, this is a bit late in responding. But, while browsing through Arutz 7 Opinion Pieces, I could not ignore the following jab against my fellow, Torah-observant Jews, slaving away, to provide for their families and to protect their homes from the Yishma'eli enemy, all in the face of pressures from the anti-Torah, Israeli battling government:

Arutz 7 OpinionCrazy Settler
by Go'el Jasper
30 Adar 5765

"...But it's strange, because I don't feel like a crazy settler. I do believe there are crazy settlers. I just don't think I'm one of them. Nevertheless, I figured you would be interested to know what the average day of a crazy settler is like..."
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Go'el, I cannot disagree with 99% percent of your narrative. You escritorily, and appropriately so, smacked the Jewish hypocite, stuck both physically, mentally, and spiritually in galuth (diaspora). But, one thing caught my attention: "...there are crazy settlers."

Do tell us, Go'el. What is your definition of a crazy settler?

Someone who builds his own home with his own hands?

A Jewish teenager who learns on a hilltop becasue the government's socialist indoctrination of the so-called "religious" educational system isn't appropriate for him?

Someone who doesn't care about "public relations" [PR] with the leftists or with the goyim?

Or is it someone who puts Torah before the "laws" of this government of mostly kofrim (deniers of Torah)?

Gee, I guess that makes me a "crazy settler."

Quite frankly, if we all acted even "crazier," I'll bet we'd be more successful getting the governement to leave us alone, and to give us whatever else we wanted.

After all, look at the Yishma'elim (Arabs)....

Note: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. This is an old post of yours, a year old. You had also only been here for a year at the time. Perhaps your tune has changed?

Has it?

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See the comments for a bit of a dialogue with Go'el Jasper, as well as some additional clarifications.

Go'el is a talk show host onArutz 7 Radio

6 Comments:

At 09 February, 2006 07:09, Anonymous Go'el Jasper said...

My point was that there ARE crazy settlers ... those who DON'T live here!

Get it?

 
At 09 February, 2006 07:12, Blogger Yonathan Ya'aqobi said...

Dear Go'el,

(eyes rolling)

Of course, I "got it." I even said that "I cannot diagree with your post 99%....."

Please consider the possibility that you changed the "voice" so often that you did [perhaps unconsciously?] jab some residents of Yehudah and Shomron.

First you don't consider your a crazy settler, then you play that you are, because that's how many Jews in huss laress see you anyway. Then you point out how crazy they are for they different things they do in their daily lives.

Then, you're calling these people crazy settlers. What are they settling? This is not clear.

And let us not forget a possible [unconscious?] purpose of your article: PR. Am I wrong here? Are you tring to show your fellow Jews how "normal" and similar life here in Israel is to that in North America?

If you want to do PR, then remember how the media focuses on "us." Those of us who do battle with the evil government exist. We are called "crazy settlers" not just by Jews in Sherman Oaks, CA, Bucks County, PA, and upstate NY, we're called "crazy settlers" by Jews in Efrat, Ofra, Alon Shvuth,...and Kokav Ya'aqov.

Your misconnected, singular sentence may just be a lot more powereful than you thought.

I only ask that you consider the possibilty before you write you next post.

 
At 12 February, 2006 05:56, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a big fan of Goel, and he tends to write in a way that encourages people to think about making Aliyah. Seems to me you are picking a fight with someone whose side you should be on. Isn't it all about getting all Jews to move to Israel? Why do you think you are superior to "Jews in Efrat, Ofra, Alon Shvuth,...and Kokav Ya'aqov?" Are they doing less to bring the redemption than you are ... just because you DO live on a hilltop somewhere in the Shomron?

 
At 14 February, 2006 15:01, Anonymous go'el jasper said...

(12 Shevat/Feb. 9) You completely missed the point. The point is that those who
settle land outside Eretz Yisrael are the crazy ones.

Oh well. I guess my writing wasn't clear enough.

 
At 14 February, 2006 15:07, Blogger Yonathan Ya'aqobi said...

(12 Shevat/Feb. 10)
{{You completely missed the point.}}

No, I didn't. Reread my last message.


{{The point is that those who
settle land outside Eretz Yisrael are the crazy ones.}}


Yes, I got it.


{{Oh well. I guess my writing wasn't clear enough.}}


Just one tiny piece, ...which was still, IMHO, a jab.

Now let me be clear regarding a deeper level of what I was trying to say:

Although, you were quite right, IMO, to criticize those Jews living in huss laAress for getting it all backwards,...physically, mentally, and spiritually. "They" need all the wake up calls they can get.

Hopefully, they will listen to you.

Likewise, perhaps you'll listen with an open mind to someone like myself, who has been out of the confines of physical galuth just a tad bit longer than you (mentally & spiritually would not be fair to judge), someone who does not live in a Jerusalem suburb, someone who does not use a "slave name," and who looks a little less European/North American (no offense).

You are guilty of the same galuth mentality you're accusing them of having, just less so.

I am also guilty. It seems to me, though, ...less so than you. You see, however much you see huss laAress as galuth physically, I see Kokhav Ya'aqov as galuth mentally & spiritually,...even though it IS in a better state than huss laAress.

Unconscious as it may have been, the disconnected, or rather misconnected "crazy settler" phrase was a jab.

The duality of an "us" and a "them" is in inherent in the combination of your diction and placement.

I'm not asking you to agree with me. I've been known to be wrong before this, and will certainly be wrong a few more times before the end of my life in this world.
I AM asking that you listen,..if not to me,...a total stranger who may seem to be attacking your ego (only you can can decide that),...then to other non-mamlachtim.

 
At 14 February, 2006 15:32, Blogger Yonathan Ya'aqobi said...

Leil 17 Shevat 5766

Dear Anonymous,

First of all, due to my service provider's technical issues, I was not able to respond earlier than now.

You wrote:
{{I'm a big fan of Goel, and he tends to write in a way that encourages people to think about making Aliyah.}}

No arguments here.

{{Seems to me you are picking a fight with someone whose side you should be on.}}

Probably in several ways, we already are on the same side.

{{Isn't it all about getting all Jews to move to Israel?}}

"It?" What do you mean by "It?"

I will attempt to answer this question anyway:

No, "It" is not all about getting all Jews to move to Israel.

"It" is about Torah. Encouraging Jews to leave their comfortably numb lives outside of Israel for more "challenging" lives in Israel is only part of that.

True, the Ramba"m does state that living in Eress Yisrael is "k'neged kol haTorah kulah" (equal to the entire Torah). But, he says "equal," not "instead of."

{{Why do you think you are superior to "Jews in Efrat, Ofra, Alon Shvuth,...and Kokav Ya'aqov?"}}

In one way,...yes, absolutely. I specificly mentioned the first three names because of the majority of the the Jews who live are "mamlachtim," Jews who believe the Torah does not necessarily take precedence over the [idiocy of much] Israeli Law.

In ways other than this, no I absolutely I do not believe I am superior to Jews who live in these towns.

Kokhav Ya'aqov I mentioned because that's where Go'el lives there.

{{Are they doing less to bring the redemption than you are ... just because you DO live on a hilltop somewhere in the Shomron}}

I mostly already answered this question in the above. Yet, I will add that any time a Jew puts Torah in second place to anything, it is hurtful to the Jewish People among other things.

My experience with the four towns mentioned above is that there are, shall we say, more connected to galuth than where I live. So, yeah, I'll have to admit that I am a bit of a snob in this way.

Nobody's perfect.

One of points I was trying to make was that there is little difference between how I criticized Go'el and these towns, and how Go'el [rightly so] criticized out poor brethren, covered in Qlipoth and living outside of Israel.

 

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